API® Vision Console Emulation Bundle
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LUNA API Vision Console Emulation Bundle
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r. mays
6 months later….legacy
Not cool.
P. Hoier
Something about fairness.
Well, I have to chime in on the bad reviews on this one, UA. I hope you read these comments. There's a lot of them. And I read them everywhere.
I bought both the (now legacy) API Vision Strip AND the API 500 EQ Collection, not that long ago. The what the new Vision strip brings of new features and sound, apart from integrating the API 560 EQ into the strip, does not at all justify an upgrade fee of 149€.
Generally I'm a huge fan of your products, and all my previous reviews have been 5 stars for very good reasons. I know I'm late in the UAD game, and have been using your products for about a year only. And I think most of us can agree that generally there's a certain steepness to your prices, especially the price of getting into the game investing in the hardware to run the software. And I think most of us agree there's also a fairness to that, with regards to the high quality and modelling and the pleasure it is to work with. Using the sales throughout the last year, I invested a huge amount of money into your ecosystem. And as I'm not some hot shot producer at all, for me it's really a lot of money. At least I'm hoping for longevity and decency when it comes to simple upgrades.
In other words we as customers are indeed willing to pay a bit for that extra quality. But it's got to to be fair. This latest upgrade to the API Vision channel strip is not fair at all. There's simply too little to justify the price. I think it was Will or Drew who wrote on the forum, that the prices was comparable to the Helios upgrade. Well, the Helios upgrade was a serious upgrade, adding transformers, gain stage, interacting EQ's and Unision plus a gorgeous new UI. A completely different upgrade experience that was all worth the price. But this one, gives you nothing in comparison. It already had Unison. The Preamp and compressor and 550L EQ is the same. The 560L is similar to the API 560 EQ that I have also already paid for. There's something new at the output stage. But nothing that justifies the price. Not even close. And I think it's obvious for you too, as it is for everyone.
So what would be a decent upgrade price. Well I'll say if you set the price to 99€, it would still be a bit to the far side, but it would be OK. And then stick in that preamp to the bundle. I would probably buy it right away. Some of us would. You know us well. We're deeply loyal and respect your work, your approach and your great customer support. But I repeat it again; there has to be fairness. With this release there is'nt.
In regards to fairness, It would'nt be unfair to send a 50€ coupon in our direction.
f. rotthier
Updates should be free!
As many people have stated the update on the API Vision Channel Strip should be free! I bought many UAD plug-ins in the past (and own an X16 and X4) but lately I haven't bought any at all. I have spent enough/too much on UAD plugins and I don't get treated like other plugin companies (PA for example) treat me. My funds are not endless guys. You should treat your loyal customers a bit better.
K. UMEDA
Nothing new
Ridiculous
B. Furuberg
downgrading, so bad!
Thanks, so I now need to buy it again. You guys are too much about money! Do not buy =( Time to move away from UA your getting to similar to Avid.
L. Ford
The emailed offers were confusing but I got it figured out
Like many owners of the API channel strip, I was a bit confused by the three listed offers and what I would be getting for the money. The console emulation bundle was not one of the offers, but when I went to the website to check I found that there was an offer there for fifty percent off the console emulation bundle. I bought it immediately. This is a great offer for previous channel strip owners who are running Luna and is way more than just a paid upgrade to the previous plugin. It represents a whole new paradigm for a DAW application.
If you are not using Luna it’s not much to sing about but if you are using Luna this is a beast of a thing.
If Universal Audio can get control surface integration done right for this they will have hit the ball so far out of the park that no one will be able to catch them.
Please integrate this with my SSL Nucleus!
J. Fomsgaard
very disappointed
This should not be a paid update for existing owners.......pure greed...
R. Kei
Luna users got right reason why they have to use Luna for mixing from now on.
Thank you for the sound quality.
and further more,
It's so appreciate to use this via native not a DSP chip~!
I already started my new mix with Luna,
and I already use this on the every channel.
I wish you guys develope for Neve,SSL and many other console like this.
Most of all, I wait for Neve~!
You guys are incredible!!!!
B. Whitlock
Robbery!
I just bought the Vision Channel Strip now it’s an Old Legacy Plug and I’m supposed to paid another $150 for the update! WTF
E. Klinger
Better than I expected!
An amazing addition to an already superior mixing system.
I own most UA plugins and Luna extensions and this is my 1st review. I have been a UAD user for about 18 years, since about the time UAD went from UAD-1 to UAD-2 if I remember correctly.
This really really enhanced my workflow within Luna... and so very quickly. I have my wishlist for what Luna could be, but I heavily prefer it over *cough*Pro Tools*cough* so when enhancements like this are released, it's hard to pass by... even having previously owned the API Vision Channel.
Bottom line - sounds great like you would expect... fat and full, but somehow fantastically clear. The API sound, to my ears, is big but not bloated and dull. It retains a nice clarity but adds a distinct character.
Adding strips also add the API Console to an insert instance, but it seems to require much less resources than you would expect - of course this was a worry of mine before purchasing. But rest assured it seems to run quite well on my modest 2019 i7 iMac with 8 UAD cores across most of a rock mix (13 drums, bass, 4 guitars etc).
Workflow integration is really nice - one of the three modules display in the mix window to offer a nice overview instead of finding and clicking the plugin to change eq, compression settings, or whatever it is you may need. It has little to do with laziness to take the steps, and more to do with a feeling of unity with the mix window.
Am I upset to pay extra for this "upgrade"?? No. It is not an upgrade, it is a Luna extension... an extension to a nice DAW that is FREE. It doesn't make sense to expect things to be free. I imagine that Luna, as amazing as it is (and how especially it could blossom into THE greatest mixing/editing (and midi??) platform of all time), is made to boost sales of plugins and hardware - this is WHAT THEY DO. And they do it very well.
N. SEALS
UAD's endless greed....
All the 1-star reviews tell a story of UAD's greed. I'm saddened by this fact. Y'all used to be the best in the game, and Bill Putnam is probably turning over in his grave right now. How can you charge existing customers who bought the API vision strip? It's the exact same coding? And you want to charge me 49 dollars for the preamp version? Reminds me of the neve preamp which is the EXACT same coding from the 1073 channel strip plugin. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
A. Rivas
Please read-UAD
I purchased the Vision Channel Strip Collection API sometime back.
Now UAD decided to downgraded my license to "legacy". To get API Vision I would need to paid $150- I am sorry UAD this is RIDICULOUS!!
A. Rivas
API VISION LEGACY
I bought API VISION at full price and now has been downgraded to "LEGACY"!! Now I have to pay $150 more to get another API VISION ???? I am sorry UAD this is RIDICULOUS.
S. Pagano
Dont upgrade your version
If you were thinking about it before reading this, don't do the latest update. Your "updated" product will now render your previous API as a legacy version. The only upgrade in modern history to downgrade your product. Poor etiquette, UA, we expected better.
R. UA Customer
Nice eye candy, but a confusing and disappointing sales model
Like other customers, I already purchased a license for the API Vision Channel Strip. I'm disappointed that instead of getting a nice update, I'm being told my license is now legacy and being asked to purchase a new license. To make matters worse, there appears to be several offers at different discounted prices, but it's unclear what is included in these various discounted prices. Does the Emulation Bundle price include the updated API Vision Channel Strip Collection for UAD hardware?
The LUNA API Vision Console Emulation is visually appealing. The integration into the LUNA interface is clever and should make for a better ITB mixing experience. It sounds like the tech for switching between UAD-2 and native running modes is advancing nicely. I'm curious if the tape emulations now have, or will get, this new dynamic switching. If I can figure out the pricing, I might end up purchasing when the demo expires.
A. Martín
BOOM
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L. Naffin
updates should be free!
UAD plugins are good but expensive. Premium prices should include updates. From now on i will rather look for native solutions. Especially because the quality differences don't justify the price anymore.
E. Obreiter
Buy it Twice! This is a very bad business practice!!! Quite bad character
I also owned the API Vision Channel strip and now, I have to buy it again????
This is a very bad business practice. I expect my purchase to be restored immediately!!!
Does UAD really need to cheat customers?
Isn't it enough to have absolute exorbitant prices for all the plugins?
J. Doherty
Elevates my mixes
I bought this after I saw it being used on a Fab DuPont demo. Just had for a few weeks and really like how it has elevated some of my old mixes
D. Sullivan
I've owned UAD since V1 - my first 'review' API Preamp
Wow, harmonics break up ever so nice. I don't record anything with it, but use it on Synth VST and Drums. Perhaps just anywhere. Luvleh!